• Ep. 422 - OU's Defense Underrated? Plus John Mateer Would You Rather
    Jun 29 2026

    The guys are back for a full summer reset as the 2026 college football season gets closer.

    The guys start with the three most interesting things about OU football in 2026, including whether Brent Venables’ Oklahoma defense can be even better this season, why the Sooners may be underrated nationally, the importance of John Mateer taking a step forward, and what to make of Oklahoma’s difficult SEC schedule.

    Then, Lee and Grant play a John Mateer “Would You Rather” quarterback game, comparing Oklahoma’s QB to several major names around college football, including Arch Manning, CJ Carr, Marcel Reed, Darian Mensah, Gunnar Stockton, Rocco Becht, Connor Weigman, Kevin Jennings, Sam Leavitt and more.

    Later, the guys hit on Owen Heinecke’s preliminary injunction before diving into the wild Brendan Sorsby gambling/NCAA/Texas Tech/Big 12 situation, what it says about NCAA enforcement power, and why courts are becoming such a major part of modern college football.

    The episode wraps with thoughts on OU baseball winning the national championship and how the Sooners got hot at the perfect time.

    West of Everest is an Oklahoma football podcast hosted by Lee Benson and Grant Benson.

    Chapters / Timecodes

    00:00 — Intro: West of Everest is back 04:50 — Ratings, reviews, and growing the show 05:30 — Top 3 most interesting things about OU football in 2026 06:00 — Why OU’s defense may be underrated nationally 10:00 — David Stone, Kip Lewis, Owen Heinecke and Oklahoma’s defensive ceiling 11:20 — Comparing Brent Venables’ OU defense to his Clemson defenses 15:35 — OU player ratings, David Stone hype, and Kip Lewis appreciation 21:00 — John Mateer, Ben Arbuckle and Oklahoma’s offensive continuity 23:00 — Running back room concerns: Xavier Robinson, Tory Blaylock, Lloyd Avant and Deland McCullough 27:10 — Can tight ends really fix Oklahoma’s run game? 28:25 — Oklahoma’s 2026 win total and brutal SEC schedule 30:35 — Michigan, Georgia, Texas and OU’s season-defining early stretch 35:15 — John Mateer “Would You Rather” quarterback game begins 37:30 — John Mateer or Connor Weigman? 39:35 — John Mateer or Kevin Jennings? 41:10 — John Mateer or CJ Carr? 43:30 — John Mateer or Josh Hoover? 46:40 — John Mateer or Marcel Reed? 48:15 — John Mateer or Sam Leavitt? 51:10 — John Mateer or Darian Mensah? 57:00 — John Mateer or Gunnar Stockton? 59:30 — John Mateer or Rocco Becht? 01:01:10 — John Mateer or Arch Manning? 01:03:55 — Notable other QBs around the nation 01:11:00 — Brady Trantham’s wild OU rushing stat 01:13:00 — Owen Heinecke preliminary injunction discussion 01:14:15 — The UNC Charlotte example that may have helped Heinecke’s case 01:17:40 — Grant’s view: Heinecke was probably always getting the injunction 01:18:40 — Brendan Sorsby discussion begins 01:19:45 — Sorsby timeline: gambling investigation, NCAA ruling, injunction and Big 12 response 01:21:50 — NFL Supplemental Draft and CFL fallout for Sorsby 01:23:00 — Courts, NCAA rules and the “toothless NCAA” debate 01:45:20 — New NCAA eligibility rule lawsuits and where this could be headed 01:46:35 — OU baseball wins the national championship 01:47:40 — How OU baseball got hot at the perfect time 01:51:50 — OU baseball’s title as a potential curse-breaker 01:54:35 — Closing: follow West of Everest on YouTube, X, Instagram and Facebook

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    1 hr and 56 mins
  • Ep. 421 - The People* vs. Owen Heinecke
    Apr 12 2026

    Lee and Grant are back after nearly 2 months off to discuss Owen Heinecke's legal action against the NCAA*. The Benson bros go over the twists and turns in the saga since they last recorded. But first, they go over major storylines in the OU Football universe since the last show. The Sooners have a new RB coach! John Mateer is changing his throwing motion! And oh yeah - Spring practice is nearly over and the Spring Game is randomly back. Come hang out with us for 2 hours. 145 days until UTEP...

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    2 hrs and 1 min
  • Ep. 420 - The Kansas City Chiefs Solve Oklahoma's DeMarco Murray Problem
    Feb 16 2026

    Lee and Grant are back to discuss the goings on in the world of OU Football in the last month. DeMarco Murray is no longer the most overpaid coach in college football, as the Chiefs do Oklahoma a huge solid. Jay Valai has been poached by the Buffalo Bills, and OU has a new Athletic Director. In the second half of the show - Lee and Grant have the most in-depth and honest discussion on the Owen Heinecke eligibility controversy that you will hear on the inter-webs. It is appointment listening if you want to understand the NCAA's decision. 201 days until UTEP...

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    1 hr and 48 mins
  • Ep. 419 - The 2025 College Football Season is Over
    Jan 22 2026

    Lee and Grant are back to talk about the end of the 2025 college football season. Indiana has won a National Championship in tackle football, Curt Cignetti is the master of the universe, and Lee & Grant want to talk about DeMarco Murray and his failure in the RB room. But first, we put a wrap on OU's portal season and talk in-depth about Owen Heinecke's situation with the NCAA. 226 days until UTEP...

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    1 hr and 51 mins
  • Ep. 418 - Has Portal Combat Produced a Sooner Flawless Victory?
    Jan 11 2026

    Lee and Grant are back after a CFP-exit hiatus to discuss the goings on in the College Football Transfer Portal. OU has received 11 commits in the portal thus far, and Lee and Grant are going to rank their impact from 1 to 11. They also go over each of the 29 portal defections to tell you whether it's a big deal or not. All that, plus thoughts on new TE coach Jason Witten, the offensive coaching staff as a whole, and they give their pick for the National Championship game. Grant really despises Miami.

    Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

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    2 hrs and 7 mins
  • Ep. 417 - Sooners' Season Ends in CFP with 2nd Quarter Implosion
    Dec 21 2025

    Lee and Grant are back to discuss OU's very difficult home loss to the Alabama Crimson Tide in the first round of the College Football Playoff. Come on in and let's all be miserable together. The sun will (hopefully) come out tomorrow.

    Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

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    1 hr and 49 mins
  • Ep. 416 - Sooners v Bama Part Deux Preview - CFP Mega Pod
    Dec 18 2025

    The Benson Bros are back after the bowl bye to preview Oklahoma's matchup in the first round of the College Football Playoff against the University of Alabama. Lee and Grant spend the first 90 minutes talking all about the Friday night matchup from every angle. Then, they wrap up the longest show in West of Everest history touching on ND's antics following their CFP snub (justice for the Pop Tarts Bowl!), shake their head at Sherrone Moore, and give their picks of the week. We all want to see John Mateer with a rose in his mouth late Friday night. If you're going to be in Norman, show up early, have some beverages, and cause a ruckus.

    Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

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    2 hrs and 26 mins
  • Ep. 415 - Oklahoma v Alabama Pt. 2 in CFP 1st Round - This Time in Norman
    Dec 8 2025

    Lee and Grant are back to discuss the Oklahoma Sooners officially being in the 2025 College Football Playoff, and they're seeing a familiar foe - the Alabama Crimson Tide - fresh off their drubbing in the SEC Championship Game. Initial reactions from the WoE crew lie within. Please lend us thy ears.

    Subscribe to the show on YouTube: @WestofEverest | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter/X: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter/X: @LeeBensonTweets

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    52 mins