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Your First Rental Property: Build Passive Income Without Becoming a Landlord

Your First Rental Property: Build Passive Income Without Becoming a Landlord

By: Lane Kawaoka
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Welcome to Your First Rental—the podcast for high-earning professionals and business owners who want to build passive income without dealing with tenants, toilets, or quitting their day job.


🎁 Start your journey with Lane’s free Remote Rental eCourse at theWealthElevator.com/firstdeal


Host Lane Kawaoka bought his first rental in 2009 while still working as an engineer. By 2015, he owned 11 rentals and has since participated in over $2.1 billion in real estate acquisitions.


This podcast is where Lane gives back, breaking down real estate investing into simple, actionable steps so you can buy cash-flowing properties remotely, avoid newbie mistakes, and finally stop trading time for money.

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Episodes
  • Primary vs. Secondary vs. Tertiary Markets (and A–D Rental Classes) | Real Estate Investing Fundamentals
    Jun 18 2026

    📚 Unlock the secrets to building wealth! My book and 12-module Masterclass cover everything I’ve learned about passive investing and creating financial freedom. Watch it on-demand for FREE: http://thewealthelevator.com/firstdeal


    🤝 Join the Hui Deal Pipeline Club and get a one-on-one call with me to discuss your investment goals: https://thewealthelevator.com/club


    In this foundations episode on real estate investing, the speaker explains primary, secondary, and tertiary markets and how they relate to finding rental properties, giving examples such as Dallas, Seattle, Los Angeles, and New York as primary markets; Memphis, Birmingham, Kansas City, and Indianapolis as secondary; and Waco and Yakima as tertiary, with even smaller towns below that. They prefer secondary markets because primary markets attract heavy competition and many unsophisticated investors who buy for appreciation rather than cash flow, which the speaker views as essential. They stress choosing secondary markets with robust economies (Kansas City as a good example, Detroit as a bad one) and caution that late-cycle conditions in 2016 make tertiary markets riskier in a correction. The episode also breaks down A, B, C, and D/F property and neighborhood classes, cash flow trade-offs, and the importance of discounting broker opinions.


    00:00 Real Estate Foundations Intro

    00:14 Primary Secondary Tertiary Markets

    01:24 Why Secondary Markets Win

    03:20 Market Cycle And Tertiary Risk

    03:59 Property And Neighborhood Classes

    04:25 A Through F Class Breakdown

    05:38 Matching Property To Neighborhood

    06:18 Broker Hype And Wrap Up


    Connect with me:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lanekawaoka/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheWealthElevator

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/TheWealthElevator


    Lane Kawaoka is a developer and multi-family syndicator who owns 10,000+ rental units and is the leader of “Hui Deal Pipeline Club” which has acquired over $2.1 Billion AUM of real estate by syndicating over $200 Million Dollars of private equity and most importantly distributed more than $45M back to our investors since 2016.


    Check out our Top-50 Investing Podcast, The Wealth Elevator.

    To help you get started grab our remote rental ecourse at theWealthElevator.com/firstdeal. The preceding is not tax, legal, or investment advice, nor an offer to sell securities or investment products. Always make informed decisions with professional guidance.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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    7 mins
  • Turnkey Rental Cons: Why Single-Family Cash Flow Hits a Ceiling (with Alex Franks)
    May 15 2026

    📚 Unlock the secrets to building wealth! My book and 12-module Masterclass cover everything I’ve learned about passive investing and creating financial freedom. Watch it on-demand for FREE: http://thewealthelevator.com/firstdeal


    🤝 Join the Hui Deal Pipeline Club and get a one-on-one call with me to discuss your investment goals: https://thewealthelevator.com/club


    Host Lane interviews real estate investor Alex Franks about the limitations of turnkey single-family rentals and why many investors stall after building a small portfolio. Franks shares his 17-year path from wholesaling to rehabs, turnkey, new construction, and a current focus on 10–50 unit multifamily, arguing that $200–$300 monthly cash flow per house won’t reach higher income goals without scale. He prefers higher-quality A/B properties, often financed with 20% down Fannie Mae loans, and discusses building new construction rentals due to strong demand and limited supply. They compare strategies on leverage versus accelerating debt payoff, note the 10-loan cap per person, emphasize goal-setting, diversification, and careful market/team selection, and stress networking and investor education.


    00:00 Turnkey Rental Downsides

    00:13 Alex Franks Background

    01:10 Why Single Family Caps Growth

    02:00 Picking Better Turnkeys

    03:03 New Construction Turnkey Model

    03:34 Maxing Out Loans Then What

    03:53 Diversify Into Multifamily

    04:33 Goals And Pathway Planning

    06:41 Leverage Versus Paydown Debate

    10:40 Late Cycle Market Reality

    13:35 Returns Greed And Education

    15:27 Stock Drops Private Capital

    16:49 Due Diligence For Out Of State

    18:10 Networking And Market Selection

    19:16 Wrap Up And Thanks


    Connect with me:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lanekawaoka/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheWealthElevator

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/TheWealthElevator


    Lane Kawaoka is a developer and multi-family syndicator who owns 10,000+ rental units and is the leader of “Hui Deal Pipeline Club” which has acquired over $2.1 Billion AUM of real estate by syndicating over $200 Million Dollars of private equity and most importantly distributed more than $45M back to our investors since 2016.


    Check out our Top-50 Investing Podcast, The Wealth Elevator.

    To help you get started grab our remote rental ecourse at theWealthElevator.com/firstdeal. The preceding is not tax, legal, or investment advice, nor an offer to sell securities or investment products. Always make informed decisions with professional guidance.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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    19 mins
  • Lane Kawaoka on Scaling Out-of-State Rentals: 1% Rule, Turnkey vs Agents, Cashflow-First Investing
    Apr 15 2026

    📚 Unlock the secrets to building wealth! My book and 12-module Masterclass cover everything I’ve learned about passive investing and creating financial freedom. Watch it on-demand for FREE: http://thewealthelevator.com/firstdeal


    🤝 Join the Hui Deal Pipeline Club and get a one-on-one call with me to discuss your investment goals: https://thewealthelevator.com/club


    On the Best Real Estate Investing Advice Ever Show with Joe Fairless, engineer and podcaster Lane Kawaoka shares how he built a portfolio of 11 out-of-state single-family rentals in markets like Birmingham, Atlanta, Indianapolis, and Pennsylvania after getting priced out of Seattle. He explains his shift from turnkey providers to working with agents for third-party street and rent-roll validation, plus his fast screening method using a 1% rent-to-value ratio and a quick cashflow estimate (about 70% of rent collected after expenses, targeting roughly $200/month after a typical $500 mortgage). Lane discusses financing with conventional Fannie Mae loans up to 10 properties and using a portfolio loan for the 11th, why he took a pay cut to reclaim time, maintenance realities across 10+ homes, and his plan to scale via apartments and syndication. His key advice is to match strategy to your time, money, and knowledge.


    00:00 Podcast Intro

    00:48 Lane Origin Story

    01:58 Time Over Salary

    02:17 Finding Out Of State Deals

    03:34 Turnkey Versus Agents

    05:14 Quick Deal Analysis

    07:35 Financing And Loan Limits

    08:21 Scaling Beyond Single Family

    09:44 Best Advice Skills Triangle

    11:15 Lightning Round Lessons

    13:51 Mistakes And Cashflow Buffer

    14:48 Wrap Up And Where To Find


    Connect with me:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lanekawaoka/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheWealthElevator

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/TheWealthElevator


    Lane Kawaoka is a developer and multi-family syndicator who owns 10,000+ rental units and is the leader of “Hui Deal Pipeline Club” which has acquired over $2.1 Billion AUM of real estate by syndicating over $200 Million Dollars of private equity and most importantly distributed more than $45M back to our investors since 2016.


    Check out our Top-50 Investing Podcast, The Wealth Elevator.

    To help you get started grab our remote rental ecourse at theWealthElevator.com/firstdeal. The preceding is not tax, legal, or investment advice, nor an offer to sell securities or investment products. Always make informed decisions with professional guidance.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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    16 mins
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