Do you find yourself hitting every goal and still asking "what's next?" Our guest, Meghan French Dunbar, has a name for that loop — and it lives in the same part of your brain as addiction. In this episode, Michelle and Sophia sit down with the "business anthropologist" and bestselling author of This Isn't Working to unpack why your worth isn't tied to your work, how to actually define your values (hint: keep it to five), and why the "soft skills" we undervalue are really leadership skills. Whether you're heading to college or running a team, this conversation will stick with you.

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Timestamps:

1. 00:00 — Meet Meghan French Dunbar

2. 04:25 — Follow What Lights You Up & the 3 Pillars of Flourishing

3. 19:56 — Defining Your Values (The Funeral Question)

4. 27:01 — Holistic Leadership: Why "Soft Skills" Are Leadership Skills

5. 32:05 — Why Your Boss Affects You More Than Your Spouse

Tired but wired. That's what Sophia described — and her Aura ring confirmed it with a flat cortisol line stuck at the top of the graph all day long. In this candid mother-daughter conversation, Michelle and Sophia unpack the real cost of constant scrolling, why "rest" on your phone isn't actually rest, and how cortisol, carbs, and dopamine hits are quietly running the show for high achievers. Michelle shares the practices that have helped her through every season (including menopause), and together they map out a real plan for Sophia's last two months of high school. Relaxation, it turns out, is a skill.

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Michelle Bosch is the CEO and co-founder of Orbit Investments and has been a full-time real estate investor since 2002.

She has bought and sold thousands of pieces of real estate and built the 3rd largest land investment and auction company in the US, bringing that company successfully into the 8-figure revenues in a matter of 18 months. She also invests in multi-family real estate with over 1,000 units and $70 million in assets under management.

Michelle Co-Hosts together with her teenage daughter, Sophia Bosch the "Becoming Wealthy" Podcast granting women an insider's view on wealth creation and paving the way for a new generation of savvy and financially independent women.

What if a one-person company could be worth a billion dollars — and an AI agent named Henry could call you on the phone tomorrow because you told it to figure out how? That's not science fiction. It's happening right now.

Jack just got back from the Abundance 360 Summit in LA — Peter Diamandis' invite-only mastermind packed with Elon Musk, Eric Schmidt, and the founders of Circle and Solana.

In this episode, Sophia gets the full download: self-learning AI agents, stable coins reshaping global money, Harvard scientists reversing cellular aging in human trials, and why Elon thinks our economy could be 10X bigger in just 10 years.

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ABOUT MICHELLE: 🤯 🚀

Michelle Bosch is the CEO and co-founder of Orbit Investments and has been a full-time real estate investor since 2002.

She has bought and sold thousands of pieces of real estate and built the 3rd largest land investment and auction company in the US, bringing that company successfully into the 8-figure revenues in a matter of 18 months. She also invests in multi-family real estate with over 1,000 units and $70 million in assets under management.

Michelle Co-Hosts together with her teenage daughter, Sophia Bosch the "Becoming Wealthy" Podcast granting women an insider's view on wealth creation and paving the way for a new generation of savvy and financially independent women.

Is Gen Z actually set up to win—or just feeling the pressure of a world that's changing faster than any generation before them? In this episode, Michelle and Sophia get real about what it's like to be young right now. They dig into why Gen Z won't work hard unless they actually care, how AI is reshaping every career path, and what this generation's relationship with social media is costing them—financially and mentally. Plus, Sophia shares what parents are getting wrong and what kids actually need to thrive. This one's worth sharing.

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ABOUT MICHELLE: 🤯 🚀

Michelle Bosch is the CEO and co-founder of Orbit Investments and has been a full-time real estate investor since 2002.

She has bought and sold thousands of pieces of real estate and built the 3rd largest land investment and auction company in the US, bringing that company successfully into the 8-figure revenues in a matter of 18 months. She also invests in multi-family real estate with over 1,000 units and $70 million in assets under management.

Michelle Co-Hosts together with her teenage daughter, Sophia Bosch the "Becoming Wealthy" Podcast granting women an insider's view on wealth creation and paving the way for a new generation of savvy and financially independent women.

When everything around you feels uncertain, the instinct is to pull back. But what if that's exactly the wrong move?

In this episode, Michelle and Sophia get real about what's happening in businesses and nonprofits right now — revenue is down, campaigns are underperforming, and teams are losing steam. Sophia shares what she's navigating firsthand as a student leader overseeing 150+ volunteers for Blood Cancer United's high school fundraising campaign. Together, they break down what's actually working: leaning into human connection, doubling down on warm leads, re-energizing your team with action, and staying in the game when quitting feels easier.

The takeaway? In tough times, staying in is already winning.

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ABOUT MICHELLE: 🤯 🚀

Michelle Bosch is the CEO and co-founder of Orbit Investments and has been a full-time real estate investor since 2002.

She has bought and sold thousands of pieces of real estate and built the 3rd largest land investment and auction company in the US, bringing that company successfully into the 8-figure revenues in a matter of 18 months. She also invests in multi-family real estate with over 1,000 units and $70 million in assets under management.

Michelle Co-Hosts together with her teenage daughter, Sophia Bosch the "Becoming Wealthy" Podcast granting women an insider's view on wealth creation and paving the way for a new generation of savvy and financially independent women.

Wars, AI, rising gas prices — the world feels like it's on fire right now. And that's exactly why this episode matters.

Jack Bosch — the nation's top land investing expert (and Sophia's dad!) — joins the podcast to break down how today's global chaos is actually creating one of the best moments in recent history to invest in land.

From Middle East conflicts driving doomsday-prepper demand, to AI reshaping the job market and pushing more people toward affordable rural living, Jack unpacks why every major macro trend right now is pointing in the same direction: land. He also covers why interest rates are likely heading down, which types of land will see the biggest demand surge, and how Starlink and solar are making off-grid living a real option for millions of Americans.

🔗 Learn more about land investing at landcoaching.com

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ABOUT MICHELLE: 🤯 🚀

Michelle Bosch is the CEO and co-founder of Orbit Investments and has been a full-time real estate investor since 2002.

She has bought and sold thousands of pieces of real estate and built the 3rd largest land investment and auction company in the US, bringing that company successfully into the 8-figure revenues in a matter of 18 months. She also invests in multi-family real estate with over 1,000 units and $70 million in assets under management.

Michelle Co-Hosts together with her teenage daughter, Sophia Bosch the "Becoming Wealthy" Podcast granting women an insider's view on wealth creation and paving the way for a new generation of savvy and financially independent women.

Most parents want to leave something behind for their kids — but what if the greatest gift isn't money at all?

In this compilation episode, Michelle and Sophia sit down with two powerhouse guests who are flipping the script on how families approach wealth, value, and investing. Scott Donnell, bestselling author of The Value Creation Kid and creator of the Gravy Stack app, shares why "heritage over inheritance" changes everything — and how his Home Economy System helps kids earn their way to financial confidence. Then, investing educator Maya Corbic breaks down ETFs, long-term investing, and the real difference between building wealth and just saving money.

This one is packed with practical tools you can use at home starting today.

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ABOUT MICHELLE: 🤯 🚀

Michelle Bosch is the CEO and co-founder of Orbit Investments and has been a full-time real estate investor since 2002.

She has bought and sold thousands of pieces of real estate and built the 3rd largest land investment and auction company in the US, bringing that company successfully into the 8-figure revenues in a matter of 18 months. She also invests in multi-family real estate with over 1,000 units and $70 million in assets under management.

Michelle Co-Hosts together with her teenage daughter, Sophia Bosch the "Becoming Wealthy" Podcast granting women an insider's view on wealth creation and paving the way for a new generation of savvy and financially independent women.

Confidence isn't built overnight. It's built in the moments when you choose to show up anyway.

We're bringing you some of our most powerful conversations about building confidence—all in one place. From Sophia navigating German train systems solo to crushing a 110-point SAT jump, these moments taught us what real growth looks like. Because whether you're building wealth or building yourself—the principles are the same: extend your time horizon, stay consistent, and keep showing up.

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ABOUT MICHELLE: 🤯 🚀

Michelle Bosch is the CEO and co-founder of Orbit Investments and has been a full-time real estate investor since 2002.

She has bought and sold thousands of pieces of real estate and built the 3rd largest land investment and auction company in the US, bringing that company successfully into the 8-figure revenues in a matter of 18 months. She also invests in multi-family real estate with over 1,000 units and $70 million in assets under management.

Michelle Co-Hosts together with her teenage daughter, Sophia Bosch the "Becoming Wealthy" Podcast granting women an insider's view on wealth creation and paving the way for a new generation of savvy and financially independent women.